The colorview bug was pointed out before (comp.sys.sgi maybe?), but this one really -does- appear to be fixed in 5.3. I just checked the 5.3 CDROM I have and the .idb file for inst lists it as mode 0755. That's also how it installed on 2 of my Indys. -- ~ ~ Norman Joseph, Systems Administrator joseph@ctc.com IC|XC Concurrent Technologies Corporation 814/269.2633 --+-- NI|KA